Wednesday 1 December 2010

The Man He Killed

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  1. The speaker of the poem was forced to kill someone because it was a matter of life or death. They were standing “And staring face to face”. This shows that if they were at close enough range to be “staring” face to face it implies that either he dies or he murders. The word “staring” also implies a negative view; for instance if you stare at someone you tend to loath them and this just adds to the urgency of `shoot or be shot at`.
    He did not wish to do this and shot him down only because “he was my foe”. He feels downtrodden and downcast by having to make the horrible dilemma in a split second. This is completely unfair on a man who had enlisted for the sole reason that there was no other work for him “Was out of work-had sold his traps”. It was (in the poet’s view) a completely unfair decision that an innocent man had to make.

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  2. Conjinator, Daveo Treeno, Toma-Hawkins1 December 2010 at 12:19

    The speaker in this poem explains why he has to kill someone. The reason was because he was known as an enemy, and being in the war, his objective was to kill. He felt relieved about this after being shot himself.

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  3. This poem expresses the unfairness of how a man had to make a decision of whether to commit a sin or go to heaven early. The poet explains in a perspective of a poor, unfortunate man how you enrol to join the army as there is precious little work left to do. The main message the poet is trying to get across is that many people were forced to join the ranks of the army and that the decisions they had to make never got any easier. The quote “Yes; quaint and curious war is!” implies that war can throw anything unexpected at you and the things that are thrown get more and more difficult to dodge.

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  4. 1) The speaker in this poem had to kill someone because it was his duty as a soldier. “We should have sat us down to wet. Right a many nipperkin!” The speaker feels excited and ecstatic at killing a man and feels it is no big deal, but yet, still a shame as the man he killed could have been his friend had they
    met at a nicer place such as a bar/ pub.

    2) The poem is about the speaker of the poem, meeting another man whilst on the front line and shooting him without little hesitation. The main message of this poem is most likely that you shouldn’t kill someone without knowing fully who they are, because they could have in later life, be your friend.

    3) The titles “the soldier he killed” and “the enemy he killed” would not have been any better because the speaker of the poem did not fully know whether the man was in fact a soldier or an enemy. The man he killed is a much more suitable name because, to the speaker, the man he killed was just another target.

    4) Hardy paused, as in real life he would have hesitated whilst actually telling the real life experience, had it actually been his real life story. This puts a better effect on the poem as it makes the reader feel that the speaker is a real person.

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  5. Lauren Turner : )1 December 2010 at 12:19

    1) Why did the speaker of this poem have to kill someone?

    The speaker in the poem found himself being pressured into killing another man due to his involvement in the war:
    “I shot at him and he at me,
    I killed him is his place,”
    This quote shows that the speaker felt a pressure through fear for his own life to shoot the man. This is shown in the phrase “He at me” This means that the speaker was on the receiving end of equal violence and perhaps if this was not the case he wouldn’t have felt the need to kill another. There is no mention of anything to do with personal differences of conflicts which could have lead to this mans death, however it was only due the part which the speaker was forced to play fighting another’s battle. The phrase “his place,” suggests that it was not wrong doing or sin on personal behalf of the condemned man that caused the speaker to bring his life to an end. The possessive word “his” cause the speaker takes on the roll as the trespasser and intruder to the setting of the poem. This further more makes the killing of the man seem even more unnecessary. It could also mean that the man stands it his righteous place, implying that he has done nothing wrong which could have lead him to death itself. This suggests and supports the view that the enemy maybe has not provoked the violence in the way in which it first appears.

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  6. 1) Why did the speaker of this poem have to kill someone? How did he feel about this?
    The speaker of the poem had to kill someone as it was his duty of being a solider. “We should have sat us down to wet, Right many a nipperkin!”. The speaker feels excited about being able to kill someone and possibly feels that it is no big deal. But yet he could a feel ashamed that he has killed someone that may be his friend, when they could have gone to the pub and had a few drinks.

    2) What is this poem about? What is the main message of this poem?
    The poem is about somebody going to war and finding someone that he liked, as in a friend. And when they could have gone down to the pub and had a few drinks he killed his friend instead. “We should have sat down to wet, Right many a nipperkin!” and “I shot him dead because- Because he was my foe”

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  7. The poem is called “The man he killed”. The title would have been straying from its true meaning if it had been called “The soldier he killed” or “The enemy he killed”. This is because the poet Thomas Hardy is trying to say that in war, even if you are on different sides you are not necessarily an enemy. “The soldier he killed” implies that the man who was killed was a professionally trained soldier who wouldn’t hesitate to put a bullet through your head. “The enemy he killed” implies that the person he killed was evil, hence called the enemy, and not deserving of a second chance. Therefore as it is called “The man he killed” it demonstrates that the newly deceased person was perhaps not evil and didn’t deserve to die.

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  8. Chloe. C and Chloe. L1 December 2010 at 12:19

    1) The speaker in this poem had to kill someone because he says that it was his duty. From the language he uses he sounds excited about killing the man we know this from the quote, “ You shoot a fellow down” this sounds like he does it everyday like it is no big deal to him. In some places in the poem he almost sounded like he enjoyed it. This could show that the soldiers fighting do not care weather they kill a man or not because they do it all the time. This makes the war sound like a very bad situation..

    2) The poem is about two men that meet outside an inn and they both think that the other is a potential danger and so they shoot at each other, and one kills the other. The main message in the poem is probably that you shouldn’t kill another human being and that we should all be friends instead of going to war and making enemy’s.

    3) We don’t think that the titles “The soldier he killed” and “The enemy he killed” would not have been as good as the title “The man he killed”. We think this because if you use the word man it makes the poem seem more suspicious and personal. It makes the reader think “did that man deserve to die and who was he and why did he have to die?”

    (Not finished)

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  9. Lewis O'Driscoll1 December 2010 at 12:19

    1)
    The speaker if the poem had to kill somebody because he was his enemy in the war:
    “I shot him and he at me”
    In a war, you don’t shoot your team mates, you shout your enemies. The fact that they were shooting each other shows that they were enemies.
    2)
    The main message of the poem is that both sides were fighting another person’s battle and that if there wasn’t a war, the people that are killing each other could be friends:
    “Had he and I but met
    By some old ancient inn,
    We should have set us down to wet
    Right many a nipperkin”
    This quote is basically saying that if they had met when there wasn’t a war, they could’ve met in a pub, had a drink together and maybe become good friends instead of having to kill each other.
    3)
    I don’t think the titles “The Soldier He Killed” or “The Enemy He Killed” would have been just as good because “Enemy” portrays the victim negatively and against the speaker, yet the aim of the poem is to show that the victim and the speaker could’ve been friends
    4)
    In the third stanza, the poet pauses and then repeats the word “because” to create the effect that the speaker doesn’t really know why he killed the man:
    “I shot him dead because-
    Because he was my foe”
    The pause after the word “because” gives the effect that the speaker is thinking and doesn’t really know why he killed the victim. It also creates a stammering effect and implies that he regrets what he did.
    5)
    The poet and the enemy enlisted for the same reasons:
    “He thought he’d ‘list perhaps,
    Off-hand like – just as I -
    Was out of work – had sold his traps –
    No other reason why.”
    This quote shows that they both enlisted because they had ran out of money, and that was the only reason. It then shows that they didn’t kill each other because they had anything against each other personally; they were just fighting another person’s war. This greater enforces that fact that they could be friends.

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  10. In the third stanza the poet has used a little bit of repetition “because- Because”. This is used to imply that there was hesitation in his decision and that he was still in two minds as to whether he should actually commit the deadliest sin. The reason it was repeated is to remind the reader that you should always consider all of the options.

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  11. Angharad & Katie1 December 2010 at 12:20

    The Man He Killed analysis.
    Angharad Davies and Katie Baynton-Glen.

    1. Why did the speaker of this poem have to kill someone? How did he feel about this?
    The speaker of the poem had to kill someone because he was his foe, we know this because of the quote ‘I shot him dead because- Because he was my foe’ these two lines defiantly give the impression of the odd foe but doesn’t say why he was his foe. This would be helpful in understanding the poem because the whole way through it does not explain about the quarrel between the two men. This same quote suggests the reader that there should be a particular reason but there isn’t, but the speaker probably feels regret or nothing, there could be many views of this one point.

    2. What is this poem about? What is the main message of this poem?
    This poem is about conflict between two different people, we understand this because of the quotation ‘We should have sat us down to wet, Right many a nipper kin’. These three lines suggest that something happened that should not have, these two men should’ve sat down and had a drink but something else happened in its place, this suspense leaves the reader wanting more, and the title of the poem does also says different to what was meant to be.

    3. The poem is called The Man He Killed. Do you think the titles The Soldier He Killed or The Enemy He Killed would have been just as good? If not, why not?
    The other titles wouldn’t have be as effective because the title would’ve then given away who he killed, finding out who he killed would make suspense and also the poet may not have mentioned who the foe was ‘He thought he’d ‘list perhaps’ this shows that the poet mentioned a bit but it doesn’t explain much about him. The title The Soldier or The enemy he killed may not have been correct since the quote says ‘perhaps’ like he was thinking about it and/or the foe could be on either sides of the war.

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  12. 1) The speaker of the poem, “The Man He Killed”, killed a man because he was his “foe” according to war:
    “I shot him dead because –
    Because he was my foe,
    Just so-my foe of course he was;
    That’s clear enough; although”
    The way the phrase “I shot him dead” is written shows that the speaker did not hesitate to kill the man he just went and did it. This shows that the speaker thinks that war is right and if war says someone is your enemy then that person is your enemy, even if you don’t have anything personal against them.

    2) The poem “The Man He Killed” is about two men who meet but are enemies because of the war.
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  13. 1. The speaker in ‘the man he killed’ shot the other man because he was a foe:
    ‘I shot him dead because-
    Because he was a foe,’ this shows that he didn’t like the man who was shot because he wasn’t a friend.
    The speaker felt that there should have been more of a reason for him to shoot the other man:
    ‘No other reason why’ this could suggest that he wanted there to be more of a reason for him to shoot the victim.

    2. The poem ‘The man he killed’ is about the fact that if you meet someone for the first time and you don’t get along then, then you probably won’t ever get along:
    ‘Had he and I but met
    By some old ancient inn…’

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  14. Chlöe Lawrence 9.6
    The Man he killed:

    1) The speaker of this poem had to kill someone because the speaker was in the war:
    “I shot at him and he at me,
    And killed him in his place”
    When the speaker says the words “killed him in his place” it implies that the speaker has shot someone without guilt at the time only because of the other man shooting at him so he may feel that it was to help his country. We know that he is in war when he uses the quote “I shot at him and he at me” and when he does speak this you know that he feels that if he doesn’t shoot he would be shot.
    The speaker of this poem had to kill someone because he may have been forced to kill a certain person otherwise he would have been killed for being a coward:
    “We should of sat us down to wet,
    Right many a nipperkin”
    When the speaker says the words “Right many a nipperkin” it implies that if the speaker wasn’t in the war then he might have been in a pub with the “enemy” but because of being in the war he has to make a enemy of someone he has never met and shoot him before he got shot himself. Going by the quote the speaker properly felt scared and guilty for what he has done even though he had no choice.

    2) The poem is written in 1st person and the speaker is talking about his own experiences in the war and how he feels about shooting someone to save himself in this war:
    “Yes; quaint and curious war is!
    You shoot a fellow down
    You’d treat if met any bar is,
    Or help to half-a-crown”
    When the speaker says this he implies that the war is strange in many ways but its feeling guilty for taking someone’s life. When the speaker says the words “You’d treat if met any bar is” the speaker is basically saying that if he wasn’t in the war then he could be having a drink with the person that he killed also saying that he doesn’t really want to kill because it makes him feel guilty.

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  15. Kelly Winterbourne1 December 2010 at 12:21

    Questions about the poem “The Man He Killed”

    1. The speaker in “The Man He Killed” had to shoot someone because he was an enemy to him.
    “I shot him dead because-
    Because he was my foe”
    The phrase “I shot him dead” illustrates that the speaker shot him violently and felt that this person should be in a lot of pain and should not survive any longer. This shows that the speaker was very repulsed to the victim and wanted him to be punished by suffering.
    Also you could argue that he sot this man because he was drunk
    “We should have sat us down to wet
    Right many a nipperkin”
    The word “nipperkin” could indicate that you’re a heavy drinker that doesn’t have limits. This shows that when he drunk he expresses his feelings so when he shooting the victim he was showing that he hates him.

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